why do we pronounce it secretary of defense but the 49ers had a good defense. it's the same word and spelled the same way and pronounced differently. >> kimberly: linguist. >> eric: you couldn't say de-fence. de-fence. >> kimberly: i brought out my new shoes for the 49ers in hon for of the niners, brought out my red shoes and that is something significant to talk about. >> bob: $16,543. >> greg: no, $1300. >> kimberly: julia will get them as part of an entitlement program. >> bob: harbaugh coached against each other in 2011 when the 49ers were defeated -- excuse me. yeah, raiders defeated 49ers 16-6. jim and john are going to be up against in the bro-bowl. dabs one of the guy -- >> dana: one of those guys isn't liked, right? one of them has a bad reputation? >> kimberly: they're both good dudes. their parents are still alive, god bless them. the mom will go for the younger brother and the dad for the older brother. >> dana: that is an angle for a morning show. >> eric: i heard you invited bob to come watch a football game. >> kimberly: not us. >> eric: stay for